And this quote, specifically, from her Campaign Manager Ed Rollins shows her continuing error:

"Former Bachmann campaign manager Ed Rollins signaled earlier this week that he believes the presidential hopeful "made a mistake" with her remarks. He said, "The quicker she admits she made a mistake and moves on, the better she is."

Keep Dreamin', DK!!!

Obama is taking off the gloves now- we saw it today - and is going to whip the Republicans in 2012.

I'll be out working for a Democratic SUPERmajoirty in 2012, and we will move this country forward.

PS - 2012 is the year the 6th Wakes Up, and votes Michele, Lohmer and Lillie OUT.

Hey Deek!!!

Solyndra started with George W. Bush, not Barack, here's the proof, read it, and weep!!! LOL LOL LOL

http://thinkprogress.org/romm/2011/09/13/317594/timeline-bush-administration-solyndra-loan-guarantee/

Two things:

a) I agree that sleeping around is not to be encouraged for teenagers or anyone else for that matter. In spite of that, this vaccination is designed to prevent cancer......something very few people would be against.

b) I believe Gov. Parry did say there was an opt-out clause in the law, so parents were allowed to opt-out for their kids. It seems like Michele is just using this issue to show she is further to the right than Parry.

And she is doing it with foolish, unscientific and outrageous statements......something she does a lot.

It is designed to innoculate against the virus which leads to cancer. Anti-viral vaccines have been tested and used for over 50 years (the polio virus vaccine, for example, was developed in 1953).

Every year, many millions of Americans receive flu virus vaccinations for new virus strains, and these vaccines change (and are tested) yearly.

The HPV virus vaccine was tested over many years, and was put through the same rigorous testing and standards as any other virus vaccine.

This is not new technology. It's been around for decades. Hundreds of millions of American lives have been saved by vaccination -- smallpox, polio, measles, rubella, tetanus, flu, etc.

Bachmann is engaging in mindless and unfounded fear mongering.

Will you get a flu vaccination this year? Are you scared of it? If you are scared by the HPV vaccine you should be frightened of flu shots, polio vaccination, tetanus vaccination, etc, etc. They are all based on the same science, and they work.

"Standing your ground" when you're wrong is not a virtue.

In a way, it is a form of insanity.

Everyone is entitled to have an opinion.

"Everyone is entitled to have an opinion."

"Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but they are not entitled to their own facts."

-- Daniel Patrick Moynihan

"Her own facts" or "her own version of history" are what gets Bachmann into trouble.

could you please show me her own facts?

"could you please show me her own facts?"

Sure. This is from an independent, Pulitzer-prize winning fact organization. She has more lies (her "facts") documented than anyone else in American politics today. Take a look, it's all there --

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/michele-bachmann/

Actually, this page is better. It shows all her lies/misstatements:

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/michele-bachmann/statements/

I was talking more about this article, I thought that is what you guys were referring to, but thanks! It's funny how worked up people get over her, when in reality you know she won't become president haha

I wish they would provide links to the full context or article of each quote.

"I wish they would provide links to the full context or article of each quote."

They do, along with a full analysis. You have to click on the "meter" icon. Here's an example of the full context and their analysis of the vaccine lie:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/sep/16/michele-bachmann/bachmann-hpv-vaccine-cause-mental-retardation/

At the end they summarize with their ruling and justification for it. This site is excellent -- you can see why they won a Pulitzer prize.

"It's funny how worked up people get over her, when in reality you know she won't become president haha"

It's funny how you get so worked up and ardently defend her . . .

I think what is more important is the damage she has done by misdirecting and lying on an important health issue. Whether or not she becomes president (and you are correct, she's too whacky to go much further) she is damaging the Republican party with her extremist views, not to mention blurting out dangerous and damaging lies that pollute civil and reasonable discourse.

Her noise is counterproductive at a time when we have real problems to solve in this country.

lol, i'm definitely not worked up and honestly never even planned to vote for her.

I guess I wasn't aware I was defending her? In my opinion I'm not, I was just curious what the big fuss was about.

I think she is doing damage to herself, not the republican party as a whole. If people are dumb enough to group one person's statements/views, with the entire party, whether it be dem. or rep. then they shouldn't even be allowed to vote.

"I think she is doing damage to herself, not the republican party as a whole."

She does damage because she represents an important piece of the party -- she leads the TEA party caucus. She also does damage by forcing other candidates in her party further to the right. When she signed a whacky pledge, Pawlenty had to follow and do the same, for example. She did a lot of damage during the debt ceiling debate by applying pressure to her party leadership to not raise the debt ceiling. She has a platform, and that means she pressures leadership in her own party. In this way she damages the whole party.

why did pawlenty have to follow and do the same? what was the pledge? I think other republicans can speak for themselves. Obviously they didn't want to raise the debt ceiling either. Not all of the other republicans are making statements about hpv vaccine like she is. So I would argue that they are not doing any damage to themselves. I guess that is what I am referring to since this is what the article here is about.

They instill fear into the patients, "If you don't get this vaccination and that vaccination then you will get this/that disease and die."

They say it because it's true. If you want to easily avoid measles, tetanus, polio, etc, the most effective (proven effective over many years) way is through immunization.

The science behind these vaccines is widely accepted and proven over many years of experience.

It's not fear, it's a pragmatic choice. Doctors give advice based on facts, evidence, scientifically proven results. They don't take an oath to instill fear in people. They work to alleviate human suffering and ensure quality of life . . . at least that's what my doc does. Maybe you need a new/different doctor!

Which is better -- taking a $10 shot to prevent polio, or getting the disease and costing society potentially millions of dollars in treatment and ongoing issues due to having the disease (paralysis, for example).

Is it better to get the HPV shot and avoid cancer, or to get cancer and go through the treatment (and possibly die from it)? Gee, that's a tough choice.

Is it better to prevent disease in the first place, or to ditch vaccines and let epidemics take their toll because we can "treat it after the fact"?

Your 19th century views are quaint, but deadly. Seriously, you prefer human suffering and expensive treatments to cost-effective methods of preventing disease?

I'm confused about why you would think I need a new doctor??

There are other ways in preventing disease, and just because you get a shot/vaccine does not mean you won't get the disease or cancer. HPV doesn't even protect from all strains of the virus.

"19th century views are quaint, but deadly. Seriously, you prefer human suffering and expensive treatments to cost-effective methods of preventing disease?" yes, that is exactly what I want, how could you tell?!

"The doctor of the future will give no medication, but will interest his patients in the care of the human frame, diet and in the cause and prevention of disease."- Thomas A Edison

like i said, to each their own. Have a wonderful day! : )

"will interest his patients in the care of the human frame, diet and in the cause and prevention of disease"

Yes, the doctor of the future is here today. They do all of this. Prevention of disease includes vaccinations.

Did you even read the quote?

goodness, you must have a lot of time on your hands. The doctor's of the future will go no medicine. quite different from what is actually happening in the present. "interest his patients in the care of the human frame, diet and in the cause and prevention of disease." I don't see as many doctors advocating a healthy diet. Have doctors figured out the CAUSE? Tell me, you seem to be into preventing any type of disease/cancer. Are you eating all the right nutritious foods to lower your cancer risks? Do you put lotions/make-up on the body that contain parabans that can be cancerous? Do you use cleaning products with endless amounts of chemicals in them? It wouldn't make much sense for someone to be so against cancer and disease but yet take the necessary steps and precautions into doing anything and everything they can to help prevent it and lower your risks.

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Drugs/drug-deaths-exceed-traffic-deaths/story?id=14554903 perhaps if doctors were more interested in helping people become healthy and STAY healthy, they would promote healthy living instead of prescribing drugs to mask the problem. I don't watch star trek, I'm sensing some hostility?
yes, avoiding parabens and other harmful chemicals might be a little more difficult but, people who are serious about trying to eliminate cancer risks might put in the extra effort. All you really need to learn to do is read labels. Carpet contains formaldehyde, easy fix is eliminating carpet within the house. You might not be able to do all of it at once if the budget doesn't allow it, but not much of a challenge there.
A lot of people I know avoid parabens, eat healthy all natural/organic foods, use chemical free products and none of them live in a cave. I understand you can't help what is put into the environment but for someone to say that avoiding parabens and other cancer causing chemicals is that hard that you can't change your lifestyle just a little bit, makes me wonder how much people really care about getting cancer.
If the demand for better products without harsh chemicals goes up then so will the supply. However, if people continue to be careless about the products they buy and choose the ones that could be harmful, then nothing will change. It might be a lifestyle change for many, but why wouldn't you do it to live a healthier, possibly longer life?

These days you can actually search for building companies that will build a house using healthy materials, yes, i believe it is more expensive, but another alternative.

The "Vaccine Safety Council of Minnesota" is still perpetrating the myth about autism and vaccines, which has been thoroughly debunked.

The official CDC position

http://www.cdc.gov/std/hpv/stdfact-hpv-vaccine-young-women.htm

If there are so many problems with the vaccine, why is no one coming forward? Bachmann can't even produce her "mystery woman".

Who do you believe when it comes to verifying safety of vaccines, drugs, established methods of treating disease?

If not the CDC scientists, then who? Unverified anecdotes you find on the internet ???

You didn't answer my question. Who do you trust to test and verify safety of drugs?

It sounds, from what you are saying, like you would be in favor of more/better government regulation, not less. Bachmann advocates for less regulation of industry (pharma, for example). She believes they can police themselves . . . how's that working out? How did it work out in the financial industry? SEC was neutered and the Madoffs (and other ponzi schemers) thrived. Bachmann wants LESS oversight and regulation . . . makes no sense to me, as less regulation created disastrous results in the banking industry.

Consider the audience he's speaking to (Black Caucus), and here's the entire quote:

"I never promised easy. Easy’s never been promised to us,” Obama declared, drawing applause from an audience that included celebrities and professional athletes. “I don’t have time to feel sorry for myself. I don’t have time to complain. I have to press on. You have to stop complaining, stop grumbling stop crying. We are going to press on. We have work to do.”

You read that as Obama "attacking his base." Others would not interpret it that way.

Deek,

The comparison to President Carter is entirely misplaced. It is so out of tune with reality, and I don't know where to start refuting it.

OK, I'll start here. Obama won by a landslide, Carter didn't. Obama sells ideas like NO ONE else. Obama has decided to stop trying to placate Boehner, McConnell and Cantor. He's taking off the gloves and is now giving them the pummelling they so richly deserve.

There is no death spiral here, except in your dreams. And "lack of leadership" (?), that is so ridiculous it's not worth commenting on.

In 2012, after Obama is re-elected, by another landslide, and Michele is OUT of the House, I will call on her Democratic replacement to sponsor a bill rescinding the 22nd Amendment, so Barack can serve 3 terms and save this country!!

May God Bless America!

Why would I work for Huffington? For starters, they don't pay enough ;-)

It looks like Bachmann's campaign is on it's last legs. Any thoughts on Patch replacing this daily feature with something else? Maybe a column dealing with local politics?

Hey Scotti!!

Sure, sure, attack us with some nonsense about Huffington......easier to do than defending your own positions. Your behaviour is boorish.